The only hui on e-bay right now is going for a minimum of $2650, which isn't exactly in the same league as $1700 is it? Also, I have it from the mouth of Emagic's UK distributer that they don't offer any kind of MOTU-like crossgrade scheme. If you happen to be a big-name artist/producer/studio however, they can bestow upon you the 'VIP' version of Logic Platinum for 'several hundred' pounds/dollars less than the street price. m.